Monday, September 15, 2008
Man Who Threatened to Behead Two Women May Lose Eye
We will have to drag out the World's Smallest Violin for this story out of Colorado Springs:
September 13, 2008 - 10:52PM
THE GAZETTE
A man who threatened to behead two women because they were Christians was attacked in self-defense early Saturday and injured so severely, police say, that his eye was to be removed.
Russell Bowman, who called himself an atheist, showed up with a large knife at the women's apartment in the 700 block of Tia Juana Street about 3:15 a.m., police said.
Another resident grabbed a shotgun and ordered him to put the knife down. When Bowman refused and began approaching, the person hit him with the butt end of the weapon, police said.
Doctors at Memorial Hospital reportedly told police the eye would have to be removed.
Bowman, who lived in the same building, threatened the women a couple of days before the confrontation, Colorado Springs Police Lt. Pat Rigdon said. Alcohol appeared to play a role, he said.
Police will likely pursue charges of felony menacing against Bowman. The investigation will be forwarded to the 4th Judicial District Attorney's Office to see if other charges are merited.
Selected Reader Comments:
jtrione wrote:
Crazy story. Person was in the right to defend themselves. But, as usual, Truthforce sees nothing but paranoia and trumps up some ridiculous (yes, it's spelled with an 'I', there's no 'E' in the word) charges of bogus anti-Christian bashing. To be expected.
Bottom line, this dingleberry was a couple sandwiches short of a picnic, believer or nonbeliever. He should have learned the first rule of coexistence. Just get along. There's never a justification to lash out and be violent, even if the patent idiocy of their commentary makes your head hurt due to the inconsistencies. They are free to believe the moon is made of green cheese or the earth flat. That's their right.
Yeah, the doofus needed to have his bell rung. And THAT from a liberal ! (laughing)
9/14/2008 11:25:55 PM
somanycrazyppl wrote:
CITIZEN1 is insane! How the hell do you side with the person that started the whole thing up???? He threatened to BEHEAD 2 women just because they were of a different religion than him!!!
How the hell, CITIZEN1, do you say that it's basically wrong for "apartment dwellers" to have guns, but it's okay for some psychopath wanna-be to run around with a large knife threatening to behead women??????????
That does NOT equate!
The guy that had the gun may have been at the apartment to protect the women because of the earlier threats. In my opinion, he showed complete skill and management with a gun not to panic when the psycho lunged at him with the knife, in that he only head-butted him and not shot and killed him.
I wonder how some people sleep at night???????????? Reading about things like this and then the comments where people absolve the assailant and blame the victims....What the hell????
9/14/2008 10:17:52 PM
truthforce wrote:
No, even better! May he find the truth he has been running from and accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior instead! That would be great!
9/14/2008 10:02:43 PM
bebops wrote:
may he burn in hell
9/14/2008 9:47:46 PM
trashman wrote:
citizen1 wrote:
"I am relieved to know that apartment dwellers have shotguns, aren't you all? Hitting someone in the face hard enough to make a person lose their eye (as in forever) is ALWAYS a warranted thing in an apartment complex environment, isn't it??? GO GUNS!!!"
I read this, realize citizen1 is off her meds again, and I just shake my head and consider the source. Yes, I personally am relieved to know apartment dwellers (she says it like it's a disease or something to live in an apartment or because you live in an apartment you can't be trusted with a gun) have guns, especially this apartment dweller. I'll bet the two ladies are as well. Maybe citizen1 would have felt better if the ladies had been injured but was able to say at least no gun was used.
THEN, I read this.......
citizen1 wrote:
"As usual, we (newspaper readers) only hear "part" of the story. Do you suppose that maybe, just maybe considering the viciousness and violence (suggested and then actually "displayed" by the knife-wielding, male atheist)....that SUBSTANCE ABUSE could be involved? Perhaps this knife-wielder had had a little too much alcohol and/or drugs to gather the "courage" to come-through on his threat....but, we don't/won't hear about that. People make threats...but oftentimes don't follow-through UNLESS they find "courage" from outside sources (booze, drugs, combo of both.) This story is incomplete....SOMETHING put this knife-wielder into high-enough gear to actually come "in person" with a weapon to follow-through on a very serious threat....Hmmm.....I just wish our City's daily newspaper had the "courage" to give/provide ALL of the or the Full-story..... Who wouldn't be upset with this person? We all are.... "
......... and realize my suspicions that citizen1 is an idiotic moron are well founded and probably a conservative estimate at best. As if under any circumstance the neighbors should have been patient, and it would be all right for this guy to be wielding a knife, heading for the ladies, after making a threat to behead them. To suggest that somehow the incident could be understood or minimized due to Bowman's possible use of alcohol and/or drugs goes beyond ridiculous. Nevermind the fact that the presence and threat of a gun didn't stop bowman. Perhaps everyone should have waited to see if he was serious and would actually attempt it and then, after he began cutting, someone should have reacted with an offer of counseling for the poor soul. As if we give rat's @ss about his circumstances.
I've read some pretty idiotic remarks here, and even made a few myself (hey, nobody's perfect) but these two remarks you made here citizen1 have got to be, hands down, the absolute STUPIDEST remarks anyone here has EVER made. Lady, you are flat out f###ed up and you really need to seek some help.
9/14/2008 8:31:54 PM
mistahtom wrote:
Great, now the number of Atheists in prison just doubled.
9/14/2008 7:24:02 PM
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truthforce wrote:
Manitoumom, even SATAN believes in God, but that fact in itself does NOT make him a Christian! You might believe, and you might even BE a Christian, this I will never judge, but you CLEARLY show that you know VERY little about God's word!
"An eye for an eye" was never a Christian teaching, and if you know anything about the Bible, you would know that. But then again, you have shown SEVERAL times with your bible misquotes that you know very little about God and his teachings.
Yes, this event has clearly shown how evil the anti-christians are getting. And God's word warned us clearly that this was going to happen.
Now as for the part about people doing stupid things while they are drunk, well that does not account for the other times he has threatened or harassed them before this.
9/14/2008 6:38:50 PM
divide6 wrote:
Citizen 1 - are you serious?? You're blaming the victims for this attack? You've implied that there is more to this story than what is being reported, so please have the "courage" to enlighten us all. As others have indicated, the guy was lucky it was the butt of the gun that was used. Had he come to my door, he wouldn't have been that lucky.
9/14/2008 4:08:02 PM
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Let me clear this all up for you folks so that you may PROPERLY form an opinion. I'm the guys that did this to Bowman, obviously excluding my mane. There were 3 young woman in my apartment, one of which he had threatened, all of which he was trying to harm. I was returning home from getting food and he was at my door, stabbing it and trying to enter. When he saw my roommate and myself he ran down the hall and hid in the laundry room. I retrieved my shotgun from the apartment, loaded it and had the young woman call the cops while I attempted to relieve him of his weapon and calm him. When we spotted him he came at me with the knife at the ready so I hit him with the butt of the gun, took his weapon and waited for the police to show. Now I know you're wondering why I pursued him instead of waiting for the police, and why didn't I shoot him. The police asked the same questions. Bowman lived below us and we saw him regularly, we knew him. I felt he'd be better off with an intervention from us as opposed to the cops, also one of the reasons I didn't shoot him. The other being that I'm trained in weapon use and combat and I would have proved nothing by showing the same lack of control he did. He was mentally damaged. He kept a bible on his fridge with stab marks in it, cross dressed and his bed was a coffin in the middle of his livingroom. He even made attepts to come to our apartment and crawl in bed with us. I felt bad for him, especially after learning he had lost his eye. That was all until the police released him and he made an appearance at one of the girls place of employment and stood there and smiled until the police were once again called on him. I have no pity for this young man and I only hope to never see him again. He is unstable and potentially dangerous. Now you nay sayers, particularly citizen1, have the fact so that you can put yourself in my position. I did what was neccessary all why sparing a life. If I were faced with this situation again, I would handle it in the same manner.
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